» Sponsors
» Sponsored Links


Go Back   SEMB Muscle Car Club > Tech Section > GM - Muscle Car Development > GM Other
Frontpage Menu Today's Posts iTrader Contact Us

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 06-10-2005, 09:22 PM
chuckspeed chuckspeed is offline
Junior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: spittin' dist frm woodward
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 506
I disagree on the TC.

It's a personal rush to drive a car that gets all loose in the rear when ya hammer the throttle - this does not make a car fast tho - all it does is cook the tires.

Match the TC to the the setup. In the old days, guys would over-cam the motor, cuz the 'rush' you got when the motor came on the cam was friggin' incredible. Sad thing was - a granny car could beat a cammin' mutha until the cam came on, which meant a well dialed car with a moderate cam would smoke the guy with long durations any day of the week. Same is true with a TC - if it hits hard up high, all it's gonna do is break yer tires loose, and this means sucky 60's, bad ET's and lost races.

NetNet: If you wanna please yourself - get high stall. If you wanna go fast - match the stall to your setup.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 06-11-2005, 03:36 AM
Admin Admin is offline
President
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Grosse Pointe Woods, MI
My Ride: 2002 Trans Am WS.6
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 6,914
Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckspeed
I disagree on the TC.

It's a personal rush to drive a car that gets all loose in the rear when ya hammer the throttle - this does not make a car fast tho - all it does is cook the tires.

Match the TC to the the setup. In the old days, guys would over-cam the motor, cuz the 'rush' you got when the motor came on the cam was friggin' incredible. Sad thing was - a granny car could beat a cammin' mutha until the cam came on, which meant a well dialed car with a moderate cam would smoke the guy with long durations any day of the week. Same is true with a TC - if it hits hard up high, all it's gonna do is break yer tires loose, and this means sucky 60's, bad ET's and lost races.

NetNet: If you wanna please yourself - get high stall. If you wanna go fast - match the stall to your setup.

Kind of see what you're saying Chuck, you deffinately know your shit! After reading a lot of your guys' posts, I've come to this. I'd like to get a mild one with mild gears. I'm not looking to spin out the tires or run around 600 hp. I just want enough to help me turn a better time in the 1/4 that is all. So I think going with a 3200 yank or so would be good with 3.43 gears? Something there to give me a kick, but not too much to spin the tires. Especially when we are all wearing low profile tires. I just want a little extra push off of the line. Not much, just a little. I'll let the other bolt ons help out the major improvements on the 1/4. Thanks guys for the input!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 06-11-2005, 04:42 AM
Devilss02 Devilss02 is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 194
Send a message via AIM to Devilss02
Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckspeed
I disagree on the TC.

It's a personal rush to drive a car that gets all loose in the rear when ya hammer the throttle - this does not make a car fast tho - all it does is cook the tires.

Match the TC to the the setup. In the old days, guys would over-cam the motor, cuz the 'rush' you got when the motor came on the cam was friggin' incredible. Sad thing was - a granny car could beat a cammin' mutha until the cam came on, which meant a well dialed car with a moderate cam would smoke the guy with long durations any day of the week. Same is true with a TC - if it hits hard up high, all it's gonna do is break yer tires loose, and this means sucky 60's, bad ET's and lost races.

NetNet: If you wanna please yourself - get high stall. If you wanna go fast - match the stall to your setup.

I'll have to disagree with that because the high stall matched with a small gear like stock is a perfect setup. And would even be better with a 224/224 cam for example. I have a 3200 stall in my car and I can get it to dead hook (on nitto 275's drag radials). You gotta just know how you drive your car. If I flashed the converter I probably wouldn't get as good results but its nothing some et streets can't cure.
__________________
2002 camaro ss a.k.a the scorpion.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 06-11-2005, 06:23 PM
jdustu jdustu is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: the clem
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 223
i don't know about you guys, but the main reason i drive my car is to get that rush......all you guys that race on the street, are you running from a dig most of the time? didn't think so...... if you want to go fast and get the rush, get the high stall, 3.42 or 3.73 gears, and then if you're worried about a time slip work on the rear suspension....ls1s handle high stalls extremely well......i haven't touched my engine in between the bellow and the exhaust and it hauls on the street and the strip.....

the overwhelming response on ls1tech would be to go at least 3500, even if your goal is as you stated.........
__________________
Peace, Love, and Horsepower
www.detroitwheeliedog.com
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 06-12-2005, 01:15 AM
Admin Admin is offline
President
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Grosse Pointe Woods, MI
My Ride: 2002 Trans Am WS.6
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 6,914
Thanks guys for the help!
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 06-12-2005, 03:34 PM
chuckspeed chuckspeed is offline
Junior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: spittin' dist frm woodward
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 506
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdustu
i don't know about you guys, but the main reason i drive my car is to get that rush......all you guys that race on the street, are you running from a dig most of the time? didn't think so...... if you want to go fast and get the rush, get the high stall, 3.42 or 3.73 gears, and then if you're worried about a time slip work on the rear suspension....ls1s handle high stalls extremely well......i haven't touched my engine in between the bellow and the exhaust and it hauls on the street and the strip.....

the overwhelming response on ls1tech would be to go at least 3500, even if your goal is as you stated.........

Umm...I try to run from the line whenever possible.

that being said - a 3500 isn't a bad pick. Back in the day, all we had to choose from were B&M Holeshots, and the stall of choice was a 3500.

I'd still go a shorter gear, like a 3.73. I just helped my friend pick a gear for his Impala SS, and this is the gear he went with. He was pretty happy with it.

There have to be like a million sites for this sorta thing; do the research and the math and come to your own conclusions.
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 06-13-2005, 03:42 PM
Devilss02 Devilss02 is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 194
Send a message via AIM to Devilss02
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdustu
i don't know about you guys, but the main reason i drive my car is to get that rush......all you guys that race on the street, are you running from a dig most of the time? didn't think so...... if you want to go fast and get the rush, get the high stall, 3.42 or 3.73 gears, and then if you're worried about a time slip work on the rear suspension....ls1s handle high stalls extremely well......i haven't touched my engine in between the bellow and the exhaust and it hauls on the street and the strip.....

the overwhelming response on ls1tech would be to go at least 3500, even if your goal is as you stated.........
Actually when I race on the street for i'll only go from a dig. Racing from a roll is not a real race.
__________________
2002 camaro ss a.k.a the scorpion.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:31 AM.

 

Advertising - Web Advertising - Online Advertising - Internet Advertising - Web Advertising test
Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8

Designed by Military Design