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07-17-2006, 12:56 PM
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07-17-2006, 09:40 PM
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sweet carnage! i stand corrected :smt025
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07-18-2006, 07:39 AM
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How much power were you making on the ground? See, the pistons are generally okay as long as you have a good A/F ratio. The rods are almost always the weak link in a powerful stock bottom end car. The cranks are good for a lot more than either the pistons or the rods.
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07-18-2006, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Colossus
For the record I'd just like to say that a cast iron block (LT1) is stronger than an aluminum one (LS1). LS1 is a good motor, don't get me wrong, but the LT1 block is stronger. If you want a stronger LS1 style block go with a LQ9 6.0 litre truck block. Its cast iron.
If you opt for the LT1 I reccomend the Corvette engine as it is a four bolt main. If your building the engine get the Camaro/Impala engine and splay it to a four bolt.
If your putting boost to a stock block go with a Procharger kit. With the intercooler option you can push 12 psi to a stock LT1 if I'm not mistaken. Don't do anymore though. With that I would do supporting mods (i.e. headers, intake, etc) but wouldn't go heads and cam. The engine won't like it.
Also a tune can be more conservative and use more fuel and give the engine a longer life. The leaner you go the more power you make but theres a bigger chance you can lean out the engine. Not a huge deal on an naturally aspirated car, hell, not even a problem really. If you lose fuel pressure the engine doesn't care too much. On a boosted vehicle a loss of fuel pressure will immediatly kill the engine, blowing ring lands, melting pistons, and a whole mess of bad things.
The only thing I would worry about on a stock engine would be the rods. If the tune is good your pistons will be fine. The rods on the other hand are the real limiting factor as I understand it. You will break them around 550 hp I do believe.
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All good but unless you pick up an LT4, it wasn't a four bolt, even in the Vette (same part numbers even) . Splaying is the way to go. Leaning anything too much is always a prob, it is just exagerated when put on a power adder. It burns valves, pistons, and will pretty much ruin your day. The pistons are hyper-pops, not something I would put in a high power/compression car (which it will be under boost) not to mention the stock crank. None of this stuff is really any good for over 450 crank hp, I wouldn't trust it at 500 unless you never get on it, and then, what's the point other then a piece of paper that says it can?
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07-18-2006, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rare4thgens
All good but unless you pick up an LT4, it wasn't a four bolt, even in the Vette (same part numbers even) . Splaying is the way to go. Leaning anything too much is always a prob, it is just exagerated when put on a power adder. It burns valves, pistons, and will pretty much ruin your day. The pistons are hyper-pops, not something I would put in a high power/compression car (which it will be under boost) not to mention the stock crank. None of this stuff is really any good for over 450 crank hp, I wouldn't trust it at 500 unless you never get on it, and then, what's the point other then a piece of paper that says it can?
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LT4s were not 4 bolts?? Are you positive, every spec I've ever read says they were 4 bolt mains
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07-19-2006, 06:46 AM
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I'm pretty sure Corvette engine's were all four bolts.
Yes, leaning out is bad in general, but if you lost fuel pressure for a second under boost you can kiss your engine good bye unlike a naturally aspirated one, which it would take prolonged abuse to kill.
I say a stock LT1 can take at least 500 at the crank. I have a friend doing 488 crank hp on a daily driven Formula. The rods go first. Look at the pictures above.
Detonation is what really kills a motor, at least the pistons. I wouldn't take the stockers past 550 crank but its possible to attain that I think.
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07-27-2006, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rare4thgens
All good but unless you pick up an LT4, it wasn't a four bolt, even in the Vette (same part numbers even) . Splaying is the way to go. Leaning anything too much is always a prob, it is just exagerated when put on a power adder. It burns valves, pistons, and will pretty much ruin your day. The pistons are hyper-pops, not something I would put in a high power/compression car (which it will be under boost) not to mention the stock crank. None of this stuff is really any good for over 450 crank hp, I wouldn't trust it at 500 unless you never get on it, and then, what's the point other then a piece of paper that says it can?
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LT4s were not 4 bolts?? Are you positive, every spec I've ever read says they were 4 bolt mains
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no, only the LT4s had 4 bolt mains. I have checked this out several times. The part number for the regular LT1 Vette block was the same as the F-body...
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07-29-2006, 05:20 AM
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Then theres a shit load of people with mysterious extra holes and bolts in their Corvettes. :D
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