which engine?

[greasemonkey]

I'm looking for a donor engine/trans for a '68 Lincoln Continental 4 door and I don't know much about the ford engines. What are some of your thoughts on a SBF with a nice broad torque curve for a 100% street/cruise/freeway ride? I want to put a heavy duty 4 speed auto with a lockup torque converter so he can get some mileage out of it. What auto transmission is in the F250 gas trucks?

The newer Navigator/F150 5.4L seems like a good engine but I believe the intake is too tall, is there a different factory or aftermarket intake(besides a blower)?
A mildly built 5.0 may be enough power for what he wants but seems like it'd be a narrow powerband; which stroking to 347 would help. Is the 5.0L that's in the 80's-90's lincolns a roller cam and stout short block like the mustangs?
What about the late model 5.8L 351? Are there good/bad versions of this? How is aftermarket support?

We were all set on putting lincoln trim on top of an LQ4 6.0L Gen III chevy in front of a 4L80E and he decided to keep it ford, so that's kind of a bummer but I'm hoping I can get a stout small ford out of a 90's-newer car/truck that will be close to the above combo.

What do you guys think?

[WishIHadACamaro]

Thats one hell of a boat. You could probably put a big block in there with a 3/4 spd auto transmission.

I dunno if its practical to retrofit a more modern motor.

I would go with a 351W, nothing smaller than that, especially if your are expecting a decent amount of performance.

[Ta Jay]

look at the old f250's. frined of mine wanted to take the 460 out of it and put it in his mustang or mark VIII

[ta12sec]

68 lincon, thats a big car...... your gonna need some big nuts behind it. So i see it like this
5.0 with a weiand 144 on it is probaly the cheapest
5.4 lighting pull out with the lightning trans
v10 from a 350 that would be kinda cool to see
but the perfect and sickest and most unique set up for that car
is a turbo power stroke. intake exhuast and a chip and you will have 600+ ftlbs of torque to move that big ass boat
if you do it i want pictures, I always wanted to do one in a 80s tbird

[defln67]

new engine = powerstroke
old engine = min. 351

[greasemonkey]

powerstroke= respectable torque, poor fuel mileage *sputter*cough*BOOM!
cummins=awe inspiring torque, bulletproof reliability for a very long time and excellent mileage.

well I do realize I asked this in a ford forum...not that I think fords are bad but um, if I was putting a diesel in I'd use a cummins. No one in their right mind can argue that a pwrstroke is better than a cummins in 1. reliability, 2. power, 3. tuneability and 4. torque curve. industry has already proved it time and time again. and no I don't want this to turn into a ford vs dodge truck war. I do have an interesting perspective on this...I know of a LOT of shops that do cummins engine conversions into chevy and ford trucks, gas or diesel, and I still haven't heard of any shops that pull powerstrokes to transplant them into anything else...and don't give me the "dodge chassis only lasts 100k miles" bullshit, how do you think cummins engines get 1 million miles on them? they don't drive down the road by themselves.
that should say something about it, not to mention that pretty much anyone that's towed with a Cummins(light, medium or heavy truck) with a transmission capable of transferring the power(usually a manual but also a mildly built auto) absolutely loves the low rpm, broad, flat torque curve advantage that an inline engine has over a v-8. think the dodge autos are POS's go see what guys say about putting even a stock cummins in front of a ford auto.

I could do a 500 ft-lb 4 cylinder 4BT or a 900 ft-lb 5.9L 6BT for about the same price as getting a 'stroke to 600. and I wouldn't have to worry about the shady ford electronics, injectors, head gaskets, heads and connecting rods. We were actually looking into putting a mildly tuned 4BT in front of either an Allison 1000 or Aisin 6 speed auto but he decided he wanted to stay ford/lincoln on it.
BTW that combo would've gotten about 25-29mpg in that car and been faster than the 462 that's in it right now.

So the diesel thing has been considered and ruled out already due to wanting to keep it a gas ford/lincoln v-8. I'd much rather have an aftermarket built SBF than the Navishard diesel.


I'm looking for advise on small block fords, namely what aftermarket parts work well and what don't. the 5.0 is too small IMO, even stroked out. I'm now looking at either a 460BB or a 351W based platform, considering stroking the 351.

[greasemonkey]

now that I got that out of my system, here's what I've found out so far:

ENGINE
--Coast High Performance 351W either standard size or stroked to 393
--89-93 stang EEC-IV MAF computer control and aftermarket wiring harness
--truck EFI lower and some sort of aftermarket upper(GT-40, holley, trick flow)
--World Castings 180cc(351)/200cc(393) Windsor Jr./Sr. Iron heads.
--roller rockers and small hydraulic roller cam

*OR*
relatively stock 460(add intake, valvetrain, carb, ignition and exhaust upgrades)

TRANSMISSION
E4OD.
I've been told by several sources that the AOD is a pretty good tranny but won't hold up under high low-rpm torque in a heavy car, maybe with a ton of building but at that point it'd be cheaper to put in a E4OD with upgraded converter and clutchpacks, which would be much stronger.

how do those engine options sound? anyone here built up a 351W? anyone have experience with doing a ford EFI upgrade/transplant? I've done several GM EFI transplants so the basic concept is not difficult or foreign to me, just the ford specific details.
I've been told to get the Ford Racing EFI swap handbook as it compares and cross-references every aspect of the different ford EFI's.

[greasemonkey]

anyone hear know anything about BBF 460's? That's the final decision. I'd like to find an F250 truck and yank the engine/trans/accessories and wiring if possible.

[ta12sec]

what are you looking to know ?

[greasemonkey]

i'm mainly looking for what years are good for EFI; need to know what vehicles to look for for donors. also looking to find out if there's any common little problems that should be addressed and what aftermarket upgrades are available.

as far as aftermarket goes, if I go carb I want a performer intake manifold; if EFI just wondering what needs to be upgraded, fixed or modified and a cam, maybe some rocker arms if I can get rollers.