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Old 05-01-2006, 11:37 AM
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Honda puts the RSX out of business, haha

But, of course, Acura is claiming that they're axing the RSX because they're moving upscale. :smt045

Acura decides to kill the RSX coupe as it moves to separate from Honda brand

LOS ANGELES -- Acura will kill the RSX coupe at the end of the 2006 model year.

John Mendel, senior vice president of automobile operations at American Honda Motor Co., says the company is considering replacements for its cheapest vehicle but would not elaborate. Some dealers say Acura will add a coupe version of the TSX.

Elimination of the RSX, Acura's least expensive vehicle by about $8,000, looks like part of Acura's long-term plan to move upscale and separate from sibling brand Honda.

Consumers can now buy a 197-hp Honda Civic Si for about the same price as a base 155-hp RSX.

"The Acura brand has been inconsistent," Mendel said during an interview with Automotive News. "We want to be performance, luxury and technology -- in the BMW area a little bit."

This summer Acura will introduce the small RDX all-wheel-drive crossover, Acura's first vehicle with a turbocharged engine. A redesigned MDX SUV goes on sale this fall with a V-6 engine that Acura promises will deliver more horsepower than any other vehicle in its class.

The base RSX, on the other hand, is powered by a 2.0-liter inline four-cylinder engine making 155 hp. It is priced at $20,940, including the $615 destination charge.



By comparison, the Civic Si is powered by a 2.0-liter inline four-cylinder engine making 197 hp and teamed with a six-speed manual transmission. It sells for $20,840, including shipping.

The RSX was introduced in 2002 and freshened in the 2004 model year. U.S. sales fell 10.6 percent the first three months of this year, to 4,150 units.

By comparison, Acura's best seller, the TL, posted sales of 16,804 in the same period.

Guido Vildozo, automotive analyst with Global Insight in Lexington, Mass., says the RSX needs to go if Acura wants to distance itself from Honda and move upscale. "Where do you position RSX now that Honda has the Civic Si?" Vildozo asks.

Rob Mohr, sales manager for 20 years at Montano Acura in Albuquerque, N.M., says dealers have heard that Acura may add both coupe and convertible models to the TSX sedan, the second-least expensive Acura, which lists at $28,505, including shipping.

But Mohr questions the brand's decision to kill the RSX. He says the inexpensive sticker brought in a lot of customers.

"It's a mistake," he says. "It's a great first car for Acura. We had our chance at the luxury market and blew it. Now we're going to lose a lot of the RSX customers, and I'm not so sure we can get them back."



The RSX is the successor to the Integra, an Acura mainstay in the past. In 1995, for instance, the Integra posted U.S. sales of 61,316.

The Integra outsold the Acura Legend by more than 3-to-1 and accounted for 63.1 percent of Acura sales.

Acura already has learned some lessons about high price tags. The redesigned RL flagship sedan arrived in the fall of 2004 loaded with such equipment as all-wheel drive and a navigation system. The sticker is just shy of $50,000.

But sales are down by more than a third this year. So Mendel says the company will bring out a trim line this summer that will give customers more flexibility with options. He says the vehicle will be priced more in the mid-luxury range.

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yawn... *r

but seriously thanks for the info, its always good to hear whats going on out in there whether its for domestic/imports.
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I think it's hilarious a brand is putting itself out of business. j)();

Besides, the Civic SI isn't really rice --- it's certainly giving its competition a good run!

Unless you happen to think all imports are rice?
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I think it's hilarious a brand is putting itself out of business. j)();

Besides, the Civic SI isn't really rice --- it's certainly giving its competition a good run!

Unless you happen to think all imports are rice?

particularly hondas/acuras... I tend to have a broader definition of rice when compared to the average musclecar gearhead.
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I think it's hilarious a brand is putting itself out of business. j)();

Besides, the Civic SI isn't really rice --- it's certainly giving its competition a good run!

Unless you happen to think all imports are rice?

particularly hondas/acuras... I tend to have a broader definition of rice when compared to the average musclecar gearhead.

Interesting. Let me guess --- you're all BIG ENGINE FAT TIRES LOUD EXHAUST.

It seems you're automatically wnriting off most imports (particularly, as you say, Hondas and Acuras) for no real reason.

Why do you consider them ricey?
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I think it's hilarious a brand is putting itself out of business. j)();

Besides, the Civic SI isn't really rice --- it's certainly giving its competition a good run!

Unless you happen to think all imports are rice?

particularly hondas/acuras... I tend to have a broader definition of rice when compared to the average musclecar gearhead.

Interesting. Let me guess --- you're all BIG ENGINE FAT TIRES LOUD EXHAUST.

It seems you're automatically wnriting off most imports (particularly, as you say, Hondas and Acuras) for no real reason.

Why do you consider them ricey?

Actually no where did i say anything about writing off "most imports"

I have a long list of imports that i fancy quite a bit...some of those include

BMW
Subaru
Lotus (specifically the Elise)
Toyotas

And plain and simple when it comes to quads/dirtbikes/motorcycles I am a yamaha guy all the way.

In my experience big engines and fat tires isnt the only way to get down or around the track, I am open to many different manufacturers and/or vehicle styles and powerplants. And in my experience with working on older hondas AND acuras I do not like them.

This is my opinion. If you dont like it then...i really dont know what to tell you.
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Defensive, awesome. :smt023

I'm not trying to be antagonistic, I'm merely wondering why you consider them rice.

And I don't know if you happened to have caught where it's talking about the 2006 versions. Not older Hondas and Acuras.
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Defensive, awesome. :smt023

I'm not trying to be antagonistic, I'm merely wondering why you consider them rice.

And I don't know if you happened to have caught where it's talking about the 2006 versions. Not older Hondas and Acuras.

ah understandable...defensive posture is something im so used to on these forums after getting flamed so many times for my ideas and suggestions...lol.

Yes, i was working on a 95' Acura Integra doing some sound system installation along with some suspension work. Ugh big PITA!!! Never again!

And my gf has a 93' Civic 2dr coupe. So I am in charge with all sorts of repairs and maintenance on that vehicle. Again just not my style of car to work on regularly, as well as the ergonomics on her vehicle are horrible! You actually have to rotate your hand 180 in an unnaturaly directoin to open the door. either that or stand directly in front of the door in the direction it opens.

Having no experience with newer hondas i supposed i cannot objectively formulate an opinion based on those vehicles alone. Assuming that engineering improves with time tested designs im sure they arent too bad nowadays at all.
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Defensive, awesome. :smt023

I'm not trying to be antagonistic, I'm merely wondering why you consider them rice.

And I don't know if you happened to have caught where it's talking about the 2006 versions. Not older Hondas and Acuras.

ah understandable...defensive posture is something im so used to on these forums after getting flamed so many times for my ideas and suggestions...lol.

Yes, i was working on a 95' Acura Integra doing some sound system installation along with some suspension work. Ugh big PITA!!! Never again!

And my gf has a 93' Civic 2dr coupe. So I am in charge with all sorts of repairs and maintenance on that vehicle. Again just not my style of car to work on regularly, as well as the ergonomics on her vehicle are horrible! You actually have to rotate your hand 180 in an unnaturaly directoin to open the door. either that or stand directly in front of the door in the direction it opens.

Having no experience with newer hondas i supposed i cannot objectively formulate an opinion based on those vehicles alone. Assuming that engineering improves with time tested designs im sure they arent too bad nowadays at all.

:h

I agree that the older Hondas / Acuras are a royal pain, especially the Acuras. When I first got to college, everybody had the early 90s Integra, in white, with the white trim and tons of rice. Because they're so cheap, they get the worst stuff done to them.

I'm not a fan of the RSX myself --- the only Acuras I seem to like are the really expensive ones, heh --- and I didn't like the new Civics at first but I have to hand it to them, the SI is pretty kick ass. The power-to-weight ratio isn't too far from that of a Miata.

The Civic hatchbacks of the 90s are always good for a laugh too. :h Especially the fart-can exhausts that are inevitably put on them.

PS - I can't see how some of the members here would be flame-happy, considering what some of them drive. ;)
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